Africa) But that wouldnt make sense because Senegal is even more Northerly than Ethiopia and Senegal is NOT seen as North West Africa. Humanity starts in East Africa, so why taking one way position stating that has been introduced or that somalis have euroasian genes, and not the opposite. Arab influence or not. The other obvious matter shown in Fig. We do have genetc and culture connection. somalia is in northeast africa, just like ethiopia whether you like it or not, The Horn of Africa (Somali: Geeska Afrika, Ge’ez: የአፍሪካ ቀንድ, Arabic: القرن الأفريقي‎) (alternatively Northeast Africa, and sometimes Somali Peninsula; shortened to HOA) is a peninsula in East Africa that juts for hundreds of kilometers into the Arabian Sea, and lies along the southern side of the Gulf of Aden. geneticist thinks. You puzzle me, and scare me slightly too. Msg to (yes=Assyrian) I have read all of the comments on this post and your underlying tone is that of perceived superiority with disregard and lack of respect to the many people you both write about and receive comments from. Berbers, Egyptians, Somali are all E3b just how Senegal, Burkina Faso, Angola and Benin are E3a. Hey guys, I am a boy aged 16 and living in Copenhagen Denmark. You are thinking of E3b1a which is M78 that has an origin in North East Africa (particularly the Nubian Desert), From wiki: There are multiple paces known to be in Asia that are described as being in Punt, and they call the Puntites by the nme they called Arabs, Somalia was never likely. (Tell me where we disagree.) ! Can you tell me how much PERCENTAGE of each genes are in Somalis. neander If you look at all other nationalities everyone is quite diverse in looking and no one question how they look..Basically that is my pt. I do mean that When the M35 Arose in Ethiopia 24kya – some of that populations traveled north. The diiference in historic Eurasian migration between upper and lower Egypt is 8% v 3% (Y chr input/2, rounded up). French Egyptologist faked the translation of Egyptian view of the world until Anta Diop made his research and highlight that Egyptian considered themselves as same people than Ethiopians. I think most of somalis with Eygptian ancestry are in Putland,Somalia. It’s all ludicrous. Its makes for great clarification when you look at Haplogroup E and the TWO large population expansions. But how you can explain this: The ancestral homeland of the Ancient Egyptians is Somalia ( Punt). I had an arab man one day come to me at work(airport) and asked me if I was Somali and said I didn’t look like the typical Somali b/c I had a wider nose(In his opinion) I think he was expecting sharp nose shape. Proponents of the view that Puntites were from African have recognized that the Puntites were not black Africans. People always try to figure out the race from the language but I am sure that can not be the exact way to determine the race of certain tribes. Somalis are not mixed with anything. Euroasians, ex Africans might have kept those genes. berbers are not closely related to black africans but a lot closely related to europeans this is the truth (Igbo) ! I am not denying that ancient Egypt had different racial admixtures because it did over time BUT essentially the Southern Egyptian that we see today and that TV never likes to show represent how the majority of ancient Egyptians prior to racial mixing used to look and they always have been historically what many in America would view as ‘black’ –even today Egyptians are referred to colloquially in Arabic as the dark ones. You types need to go back to Africa, and stay. Did life not begin in the Horn of Africa? Where did you get that idea? Arabid It doesn’t mean that all Y and mt DNA types are East African in origin. M81 is not considered to have any sub saharan affinites at all, and you never see it in Ethiopia. One book is “Daily life of the Nubians.” In the article announcing this first information, Cruciani et al. It will probably shock the hell out of you. The only ones who seem to use those terms instead of just being specific and say “semitic ancestry” have often been eurocentrics that enjoy degrading West Africans and claim that East Africans are not black and thus have nothing to do with them. Somalis have Somali hair, just like Japanese people have Japanese hair… NOT “Euro-type” hair. I dont have access to Journals online. Can they separate themselves from M2? Race and culture cannot exclude west africans. if the latter i would like to point out that tutsi’s and masai are both nilotic in origin both these groups have been associated with somalis. Are you saying Somali’s are not Sub-Saharan Africans? I don’t know why you idiots keep saying we are mixed when the numbers are right in front of you. Probably an American, I am sure. Ultimately Ancient Egypt is much like the rest of the horn of Africa is what can be called Afro-Asiatic –African lands that are at the crossroads of ancient migratory routes and although they have connections to Asia they have a historical and racial identity that is unique to Africa. You should take a second look at the ISOGG Chart. Thanks Humbug.. but I will admit I to coming across as snotty at times, repeating the same stuff endlessly gets on my nerves now and then. In Somali Ke Medaw – means black one. If you think there is, you should take a full-on DNA test. I hope i am not being Obtuse. The overall autosomal study shows Somais like Ethiopians to be aboput 40% Eurasian, but with a lot less historic Arab input. My decent I’m Oromo close too Somali. The majority of historical sources agree that Punt was in eastern Africa as the Ancient Egyptians describe it as being the source of many exotic products, such as aromatic resins, African blackwood, ebony, ivory etc. Our genetics show that we are African with a very insignificant amount of admixture with any other race. Ultimately Ancient Egypt is much like the rest of the horn of Africa is what can be called Afro-Asiatic –African lands that are at the crossroads of ancient migratory routes and although they have connections to Asia they have a historical and racial identity that is unique to Africa. The entire Horn of Africa region from Egypt to Somalia have ancient socio-linguistic, genetic and cultural connections and a shared history. One girl (with her jet black dad from Cameroon) I met had bone white skin. M81 is just as much as a genetic brother to M78 as Southern African M293 or Eastern African V6 would be? The Egyptians also say that Somalis are related to them and they are the same people but they do not say the same about Ethiopians nor are Ethiopians mistaken for Upper Egyptians. I don’t really care what a pop. I am a Somali, and I very interested in my genetic history. When those samples are separated and run in a single analysis as in Fig. Similarly the v13 in the Balkans has pretty much lost any affinity for east Africa through about two bottle necks and a shed lot of time and additions of Eurasian ancestry into the population it came from. The Oxford History of Ancient Egypt, Ian Shaw, p. 317, 2003: “There is still some debate regarding the precise location of Punt, which was once identified with the region of modern Somalia. The Earliest and most Diverse was the post Out of African Ethiopian Migration that spread M35 lineages and Afro-Asiatic. Ethiopians are of Semitic origin and share ancestry and a great mixture with people in Southern Arabia. The project is open to all Somali from all regions (Somalia, … Somalia has nothing do with with Berbers at all, genetically or culturally. With the exception of Mexicans, they are one of the newest races out there. Funny . All my features are beautiful and african. and technically Somali-specific m78 is v32, V12 looks more Nubian to me. Charlotte. So I think our genes are beautiful and should embrace your history rather then ignore, or hate. Even though you may feel you are an objective empiricist your remarks reveal your bias. “V22 is primarily in Eastern Africa and Egypt. Moreover, Ethiopia is a very old country of your knowledge. The autosomal studies show that as a whole Somalis are about 40% Eurasian, which is about the same as Ethiopians. There are multiple Egyptian texts that actually say locations in Punt are in Asia, near Asian locationsand that call the Puntites sand dwellers (Arabs). (2004), (2006), and (2007), point to evidence that not only E1b1b (E-M215), but also both its parent lineage E1b1 (E-P2), and its dominant sub-clade E1b1b1 (E-M35) probably all first appeared in East Africa between 20,000 and 47,500 years ago”, All Geneticist above put the Origin in East Africa {Ethiopia} One geneticist Cruciani recently put the origin of DOWNSTREAM M78 {E3b1a or E1b1b1a} in Egypt. Also in the study you can see a digram of the YAP+ Marker. I’m going off topic here but I am noticing a trend and really would like to see how africa or other nations South America, China etc. and the 15% is probably Arab, not European. Very much looking forward to your answer. Only 3.0% of the Somalis had the sub-Saharan African haplogroups A3, B and E3a*(xE3a4). These two concepts cannot go together. Wrong again. In this sense to me it mean ‘sub saharan African’, but I know to a lot of Americans it means anyone with any visisble African ancestry. I would assume since their ancestors where travelling across the pond quite often, would the european males have a percentage of african genes? I have a image I’m yet to post with the clinal variation along the Nile that’s a good example of the change from N to S. I’ll post it to the front of the blog…Predynastic lower Egyptians all come pretty close to modern upper Egyptians to, there hasn’t been much immgration into the area. “Mathide is serving us the western ethnocentrist view. It is crazy world! All Y chromsomes originate in sub Saharan African. Few month back I read in discovery how the human I’m from East Africa andwe are the most “genetically diverse”. Somali people are diverse and yet we notice each other from far distances when we live in europe or America. His melanin drop test was a work of fiction. For a simple approach to measure the Caucasoid influence in East Africa, the triangle method described by Cavalli-Sforza et al was used to compute the proportion of admixture from the genetic distance matrix. Berber history is very complex and Berber speakers are not found in Eurasia, nor is M81 – the Berber Marker – Which are the two most important things that make Berbers BERBER. but the M-81 is identified as a specific genetic marker for BERBERS! published in 2006 found that samples from Naqada II Bronze age Egypt clustered primarily with modern Somalis, Nubians, Arabic-speaking Fellaheen farmers of Israel, and more remotely with some Niger-Congo speaker, while adding that a “Sub-Saharan African element” was not found in the historical North African or Egyptian samples: The Niger-Congo speakers, Congo, Dahomey and Haya, cluster closely with each other and a bit less closely with the Nubian sample – both the recent and the Bronze Age Nubians – and more remotely with the Naqada Bronze Age sample of Egypt, the modern Somalis, and the Arabic-speaking Fellaheen (farmers) of Israel. Not to discredit you, if you talking about American history, it is only 200 years old. Celebrity News and Gossip. Suddenly, there is no way East Africans should look, but there is one way West Africans should look? Modern Upper Egyptians actually have a near identical DNA mix to East Africans yet Afrocentrists insist in calling them half arabs- probably because their skin is ‘too light’. You have some ancestry from Nubia from about 24,000 years ago, but Somalis are a more recent arrival in the Somalia area- you used to be a part of the Ethiopian population once. mathilde wrote, It makes sence that its the same populations going each way because you have to have M35* (in the underived state) to get a downstream mutation. Matilde, check this out. Same test with Greek V13 shows Zeta Saloman- Somalis are pretty closely related to Oromo. You're so seriously mindfucked by European proganda and afrocentric CIA operations in the U.S you can't see it. I am Albanian my ancestors lived in Europe for thousands of years, now some ASSyrian is spreading rumours that I am Somali just cause I have the same DNA as Somalis! 2- There are no “Black People” in Egypt. My father’s family originates from Guinea (in W. Africa) and are part of the very small Peuhl tribe. But even our darkest don't compare to the shades of black found in Africa admixture or not. Yung Somali Boi Negotiating Full Time offers to be Part Time? You share a lot of ancestry with Europeans and Arabs, which is why you have more delicate facial features and straighter hair than other Africans. America/Earth Is NOT Ghetto, So Stop Saying That!!! I think a modern misconception of people regarding Egypt is that: Has there been any Somalian/Ethiopian migration to west Africa at any point? Because we aren’t. In Somalis, 14 Y chromosome haplogroups were identified including E3b1 (77.6%) and K2 (10.4%).The haplogroup E3b1 with the rare DYS19-11 allele (also called the E3b1 cluster ) was found in 75.1% of male Somalis, and 70.6% of Somali Y chromosomes were E3b1, DYS19-11, DYS392-12, DYS437-14, DYS438-11 and DYS393-13. This is what I meant when i kept saying “I am unsure exactly what you are trying to say about this population.”. Mathilda what are you using as your definition of “Black”? My point is that Berbers can’t trace any kind of East African ancestry more recent than about 24k ago, and most of that has been from an expansion in NE Africa which was a mix of Eurasian and African people. Nowhere. The question is, I cannot understand in Y-DNA Terms how two different groups BOTH coming from M2 are not separated but I read two different groups BOTH coming from M35 separated as if they were not Genetic brothers? But I still don’t buy your trying to make Somali more Euro possible. mathilda37 Your pt. When you look at the shear number of Germanic, Latin and other european languages being spoken in Europe, you will definitely know that White north Americans and South Americans had there origin in Europe. I simply felt compelled to say something as I don’t think you’re a very happy person. They might be nice to you, but no matter how much you stalk the Africans you aren't one. Also video you can download and see. No, and then some more no. Do Eskimos have “Euro-type” hair? Dictionary : Black – Pertaining or belonging to any of the various populations characterized by dark skin pigmentation, specifically the dark-skinned peoples of Africa, Oceania, and Australia. She admitted that in their family tree (seven generation) there is an Egyptian lady Great…. Like I can change what the published study said. If we have mix ancestry how come we dont have mixed race feathers and skin tone ? But when it comes to genetics that is not true. Honey, a lot of Somali ancestry comes from the near East (a long time ago) so the more typically African traits tend to get a bit swamped when the kids have European and middle eastern parents. Hair varying from wooly, thick, curled to almost straight (but never completely straight in the european sense). There are plenty of explicit text references to Punt being in Asia, “The fear which you inspire reaches those from the end of the world (west) breaks the heart of the Nubians (South) devastates the lands of the Fenkhu (North) and penetrates Punt of the sand dwellers (East).”. but the Mathilda scientific article has discovered your arabocentrists lies ! The people of upper Egypt and Lower Egypt both show minimal input from historical migrations. Come back and tell us how they look. E3b is E-M215 ONLY Seen in Sudan and Ethiopia. A handful of Africans in the USA doesn't mean every black skinned person here is an African. It is just a skin tone. Why do you bother to ask for info just when it doesn't fit into your Everyone's an African theory you can cry, throw a tantrum and have insults! Which is why some East Africans have Caucasoid skull shapes. Book Alley. I’m starting from the Near East and radiating out. I’m researching this at the moment; I may have to rewrite some pages. I was using it as an example of how Y chr can be ‘divorced’ from other aspects of hereditary. Somalis and Ethiopains have a lot of Arab/near Eastern ancestry in them (a bit less than half), and it means that European/East African children actually look more middle eastern than anything. Are Somalis Black African and Ancient Egyptians Non-Black African and as such the Somalis should have been painted with dark black coloring in comparison to Egyptians? Berber Language is only found IN Africa. Some of the other pre-Colonial Black Europeans actually arrived as aristocrats. No, as a lot of traits evolved later and aren’t native to east Africa. M78 is scare in the Near east and very rare in the Middle east. E3b1 is mutation “M35” whereas E3a is mutation “M2”, M35 is Not North African. There's an Cali Saleebaan and an Ciise Maxamuud on the FTDNA project, based on STRs they are most definitely not closely related to Harti but are an almost identical match with a Garre and that's why the DNA … Europid. Niolitic ancestry is very, very possible. Try not to think from a biased point of view. I’m ignoring any possible input from black Africans due to the Arab slave trade, which has contributed quite significantly to Arabian and North Africa maternal ancestry, but the two probably balance out. o if humanity started in e. africa it only make sense that we have the features of every racial group in the world. They also have proto words for ‘fortified settlement’, and field. Then you got trading Arabs in historical times settling in Somalia too, mostly on the coast. And my eyes r light brown. Page 2 of 2 < Prev 1 2. This seems true: Almost all E1b1b Berbers are M81 That is the point that I am trying to make – If Ethiopic M35 didn’t travel North, Egyptians and Berbers wouldn’t exist – Because their markers come FROM the Ethiopic strain of M35. I think it is misleading to see your article “Eurasian Origins of the Berbers.” because the Berbers are considered as a North African Indigenous group. I hope this helps. I realize it may have moved back into Africa, after having been gone for a long while (as in some Somalians for instance, as discussed above). 1 – They are darker and look much more like the Ancient pigments used in the paint. Interesting theory Dona, but not one population geneticist agrees with you. I have read too many times people label E3a as West African, Bantu etc. Tell me who trained you and where are your sources? By the way, genetically haile selassie is more oromo probably 75%. ! Pre-sorting and lumping of samples into racial categories before beginning DNA analysis thus skewing final results. They are more of a recent Ethiopian spawn. Predynastic upper Egyptians were pretty much the same as they are now, which goes from being occassionally black but mostly assorted shades of brown and mixed looking. But I have been waiting a long time for your rebuttle to see what YOUR opinion is on this specific question. How do you explain that, you ll probably say that they all have a bit of caucasian, but some others would say they are all coming from africa since sharing DNA means heritating it from somewhere . The only way to reconcile all the data is to locate Punt in the Arabian peninsula. Berbers dont come from Egyptian M78, they come from Ethiopian M35. If this doesn’t make sense i can point you to another great article : “Ethiopians and Khoisan Share the Deepest Clades of the Human Please help me out with any info you have. Based on DNA results as well as supported by actual historical evidence minor amounts of North African ancestry seem to be somewhat more plausible for Afro-Diasporans in the Americas than East African … By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. I would like to comment. He also tends to ignore some rather crucial dating info- the arrival of sheep and goats into Africa from Asia is well documented from finds, it doesn’t hit until 7,700 BP in Northernmost Africa, in areas like the Sudan it’s about 6,000 Bp. When I was a teen age, I asked my mom if she had an Arab or any other blood, I asked because her skin is as white as the Russians and kids were mocking me callings mom to look like a doll. Some Somali’s have origin’s in different areas. It’s from the near East- it’s not on the list you have there. Create a free website or blog at WordPress.com. and wild animals” including monkeys and baboons. Same test with Berbers show (12,500BC~20,000BC), Arab-Israeli E1b1b is only found in fraction of them & its mixed sometimes M78 sometimes M34, so its harder to test some are as close as the Greeks/Somalis some are as far as the Berbers. Matilda, you’re wrong. My paternal family originate from Guinea in West Africa. Mathilda: Are you implying that we are more related to Eurasians? So that bit confuses me about how we lost our african traits and to add to that my cousins are half somali half german and they have very pale white skin with straight dark brown hair and green eyes. There is so much evidence that shows this. How come the comment I posted is not on here? Maybe my reasons dont really make sense to you. they get more acurate with time, and thats what going on hahhaah. Another question that also comes up is –does Semitic have ASIAN origins? If you are talking about the history of the horn or other countries in the region, it is thousands of years … Mainly they have affinties with Ethiopians. I’m sorry I don’t understand.. which asians? Only E3b1a (M78) Traveled southward back into Ethiopia. He’s said outright in his specific study of Egyptians that they are the same as the modern population. In terms of Genetic lineage they have not lost anything as the population is primarily R1b. Pro-Trump PROTESTER (singular) Showed Herself At TWITTER'S HQ in SF, Bill Belichick Declines the Presidential Medal of Freedom, Senator Sherrod Brown reveals Lindsey Graham berated security while senators sequestered during riot, List Of Corporations Who Have Suspended Donations To Some GOP Members, NYT: An Urgent Reckoning for the Trump Brand, National Guard: 10,000 troops for Inauguration, Fmr. 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